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Thank you! Hard for me to tell the players without a program. :wacko:
Are the ScaleAuto cars on a par with NSR’s?
Is it ScaleAuto that Chris is talking about or someone else? Regardless it is interesting insight and a great diversion from prominent media issues of the day.
Too bad, but a great attempt Ken. Thanks for trying. I’m doing my 1st 246 and there will probably be at least one (of three) in that configuration. I’m sure there will be more.
Another beautiful job Chris. Good luck in that Proxy. Looks like you will be well prepared if scratch 32 gets 10 cars!! :wacko:
The good thing about this is that you end up with a body and motor that can then be used for a scratch build!! B-)
Looks like your R&D work is proceeding well!! :yahoo: Very slick!! Can’t wait to see it on track, hopefully soon.
I have a few boxes of these that will attest to just how little I like taking these things apart and how unsuccessful I have been at trying to get them back together. Thanks for posting this. Hopefully it will help?? :wacko:
Steve. Great to see what can be done with a little ingenuity!! I have been looking for something similar to your chop saw attachment ever since I discovered that square cuts were much easier to work with than my freestyle ones!! :wacko:
Would you consider making one for me?? If so let me know how much and we can work out the details.
Great photos. Thanks for the link.
For those who might have been fascinated by the Fiat S76 (The beast of Turin 28.5L) you might find these interesting. Imagine being able to see combustion!!
Might not be much fun to marshal some spots on that layout!!
Neat idea and as an added bonus it might leave a nice thin layer of sticky on the track for added traction!!
Thanks for the heads up Gary. Given all that is included that price seems quite reasonable. I have watched this 1:1 car race many times, both as a child and more recently at Vintage races. I’m sure I have tons of pictures of it. It is a fascinating car both from a design standpoint and an historical one. Perhaps more on that later.
From Mosport, Players 200 June 1961. Just after the start before they drop down into turn 1 I think. Heimrath is the third Porsche I believe, possibly in the same livery as Bill’s car. The last car in the line is a Sadler I think. Very interesting car Canadian car.
Hopefully a few more to come.
Can’t imagine why anyone would think that the current levels of government are incompetent or trying to pass off responsibility?? :scratch: There must be full time departments whose sole purpose is to come up with plausible ‘spin’ that strives to keep ‘us’ happy and provide ‘them’ with plausible deniability!! Perhaps we’ll all forget before the next elections roll around?? 😥
I’m as anxious as anyone for things to return to some sort of ‘new normal’, but since the events required for this to happen are well beyond my sphere of influence I’ll probably just stay hunkered down until myself and a vast majority of the population have been inoculated. It’s been over a year now and hopefully it will happen within the next year.
I’ve missed the last two proxies because, among other reasons, I had hoped to have new cars built for them (still have two on the go :wacko: ) so hopefully for any next ones I’ll just resort to running what is already done (although new cars remain a stretch goal).
As for an outdoor track, it’s an interesting idea -and I applaud anything that might allow us to race again- but even if time, space and energy were to make one a reality it would probably require closer contact than might be prudent until the virus episode has run it’s course. So, I hope that it’s not too long before we can safely get back together again on the tracks we already enjoy. :good:
And there you’ve got yourself a weapon. :wacko:
Well done Luis!! One of my all time favourite American cars. That boy looks BAADD and ready to rumble!! If not a Trans Am car, at least a street Classic!! :yahoo:
Sad to hear about John. 😥
I’ll miss our annual visits to race in the cottage sun room, drool at the cars in the garage and admire the view from the ‘back’ yard. Times are bad enough these days without this sort of thing on top of it. Hopefully, wherever John is, there is an ample supply of fast cars (big and small) and beautiful sunsets. :rose:
Wow!! :good: Amazing work. Does he talk as well?? At 1:10 scale perhaps it’s big enough that a motion activated voice chip could be loaded up with appropriate expletives and placed under the seat!! :wacko:
We used to use something like this when doing any machining operations with aluminum. Applied directly to the tool straight from the tube it seemed to reduce chatter and material build on the face of the machining tool. Much better than machining dry and much less messy and more convenient than a cutting fluid. It was about $20 a tube as best I recall. Available at most industrial supply shops. If you haven’t used it, it might be worth a try.
Engineer by profession, manufacturing technologist by training, carpenter by trade, barnyard mechanic at heart!! :wacko:
On a football team I would have been considered a triple threat man, end, guard and tackle!! :scratch:
What a lucky little Triumph!! So fitting that it ‘Herald’s a new era in aluminum chassis’!!
Sweet setup! It will be a joy to use.
Do you use aluminum cutting paste on your tools?
I might have already posted these once upon a time, but… just for fun: these were taken a Mosport I think about 1967 when GM had the Sharks and Monza on tour. As I recall the one with the clear bubble top and the side pipes was the original Mako Shark, the closed one the Mako Shark 2 and the Monza was a Corvair design study. It shows a lot of Corvette influence.
That will make one spectacular model with the colour gradiation depicting a dark shark top fading to light shark bottom will be fascinating to apply. B-)
Hard to tell from the pictures, but is the bed made from individual narrow strips glued together edge to edge or a couple of pieces scribed to look that way. Looking forward to seeing it when this current silliness is over. :yahoo:
Great looking little truck Dave. Hope mine turns out as well. What did you use for the wood in the bed?
Congratulations Ken!! Nice looking unit. :yahoo: If your chassis’ get any faster we’ll really be just that much further behind!! :wacko:
Readout for table X & Y only?? What is scale for Z axis? Does it have an interchangeable chuck?? :unsure:
Looks like the spindle speed is controlled by the rotary dial on the head of the unit. Is the readout on the side of the head for spidle speed/ Nice looking setup, much nicer than having to change belts on pulley’s. You’re going to love it!!
Do you already have tooling?
Well that was fun to follow and read all the comments!! :yahoo:
A big thank you to everyone who have built and scenerized better looking and running tracks than this one and have been gracious enough to allow many of us to race on them!! :rose: Much appreciated.
Thanks Art for fostering a culture that aspires to this level both in cars and tracks. B-)
Currently at over $15,000 USD +++, 32,798 views, 1,398 watchers and 220 comments. Looks like a lot of people have discovered what a slot mods track costs.
If you look at the photos you can see quite a bit of misalignment where the track sections come together, and listening to the video you can hear when the cars pass over these breaks, much like a plastic track. Lane spacing appears to be quite tight as well. IMHO the tracks we run on are easily this ones equal, better in pretty much every way. We are certainly spoiled!! Thanks everyone concerned!! :rose:
As it turns out Ralph was correct! But you had to be pushing one quite hard and back off/brake very abruptly to get get one to unload on you!! Fortunately I had had some seat time in the mother of rear engined cars with my dad riding shotgun as he tutored me in ‘trailing throttle oversteer’, before a Corsa tried to end my young career. Fortunately for me you could catch it if you knew what was happening. Still have vivid memories of that ‘S’ curve going into Point Anne.:wacko:
If a kit is made I’d buy one. It would be a burgundy convertible. More than a few interesting memories there.
Barney Fife rides again!! The Mayberry moonshiners won’t stand a chance!! Have fun with it tonight!! Great looking custom build and a ton of work!! :good:
Some guys have all the fun!! He has several!! A 70 Chevelle wagon, a ’59 Chevy Delivery wagon, and a big rig for those heavy loads. Surely you have some of these! Inspiration for some Hot Rods?? B-)
I may have posted this link before, as it is mostly Auto Union. However at 18:37 there is a glimpse of what might be this car :scratch: at the start of the 1937 Rio Grand Prix amidst a field of other marques. An excellent video regardless.
I will see if I can find the video (old VHS) with a short glimpse of this car at the start of the 1935 Rio GP. It is in an Auto Union video. If I do, the next step will be to see If I can get it into this thread?? :wacko:
Great looking job on both the livery and the chassis, and it went as well as it looks!! :good: Is this the new trend in chassis development?? Congratulations to Ken for developing it and to Jim for being the first besides Ken to build one of these!! B-)
Steve: Thanks for donating the springs last night. :good: Now that I’m getting one of Art’s Indy roadster kits it looks like I will have need of them too.
How did you do it? To me it looks great and about what you would expect from alloy welds of that era. :good:
Below is a Type A prototype, possibly the very first Auto Union, and you can see how rough the welds and panel joins are.
Lovely. One of my favourite cars of this era. To my eye what a GP car should look like!! :heart:
Livery looks to be the Lorenzo Bandini car from various 1965 GP’s including at least the Italian and French. Well done. :good:
Great job on the Auto Union Luis!! :yahoo:
Glad to see that you can now post pictures!! :good:
Did you do some work on the seams between body panels to accentuate them or is that just the light? They look much more authentic than mine and I thought we did the same kit.
It also looks like you did a different setup with a new full driver, obviously enough room. Well done, great improvement!!
Remarkable bit of historical sleuthing, not to mention the improved look of the rear of the chassis with it’s new configuration!! :good:
What a beauty!! Looks like I’m not going to get a copy of this car though?? 😥
Rumour has it that in order to be as authentic as possible Ken has changed his mid about using a slow motor and will fit it with a motor running at an equivalent RPM to the original car!! Bravo!! :good: As the turbine was a free-running, constant-speed unit running at 35-40,000rpm an NSR Shark at 46k RPM & 290 g-cm Torque would seem a perfect choice!! That will make for some weapon and a true test for his chassis!! :wacko:
In open top 1963 configuration at LeMans.It was originally intended to run at LeMans in ’64 but was withdrawn.
As run at LeMans in 1965 by Jackie Stewart. It was second in class and 10th out of the 14 cars still running at the end.
As the highest placed all-British entry it was also the recipient of that year’s Motor Trophy.
It can now be found at the Heritage motor Centre in Gaydon.It looks like this model is somewhere around 1964 configuration before the addition of twin ram-type air intakes in the tail, and side flasher units in the fronts wings.
Thanks for posting this Ken. Can’t wait to see it on the track!! B-)
Great job on a difficult body, especially given the restrictions of the aluminum channel chassis!!
I just dropped in the Eliminator photos as it is close to your car and I liked the car and the songs it appeared in!! :wacko:
And speaking of hot rods and songs and 409… (though this one was eventually a blown 344 Olds V-8)!
Little Deuce Coupe :yahoo: It was also a ’32 Ford Coupe.
And for you youngsters out there..
Beautiful!! What a great looking car!! B-)
Darn but those wheels are a long way forward and back!! Really makes it hard to hide the guide!!
It will be interesting to see how it behaves? :wacko:
Now if only it had a top it could have it’s own music videos!!! :scratch:
Great job regardless of what the numbers say! :yahoo:
I think that in the end one just does the best one can with the body you have to work with. The #’s probably have to serve as a guideline at best. Scale bodies certainly are not always to correct scale :wacko: and when the original full scale cars were being designed
or the scale models were being molded the designers might not have taken into consideration all the issues with converting them into a functional slot car.Excellent work at fitting it all in!
Car looks great in off white.Great looking car Ken. Spectacular job!! :good:
When I went to the blueprints site the numbers were quite hard to read. Maybe I was doing something wrong??
Another site that is very useful for this sort of thing is http://www.ultimatecarpage.com. If you go there and navigate about you will see the specs for just about anything you can imagine.
In the case of the Auto Union Type C:
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/spec/872/Auto-Union-Type-C.html
Wheelbase / Track (fr/r)
2,908 mm (114.5 in) / 1,372 mm (54 in) / 1,372 mm (54 in)making for a 32nd scale wheelbase of 90.875 mm. or so which is probably close enough without trying to scale drawings. :wacko:
Scale track f/r was a very narrow looking 42.875 mm
Between the two sites one should be able to answer most dimensional questions.
Thanks so much for posting this link. Should be very helpful in getting the current 550 somewhat correct!! B-)
Thanks for sharing. I kick myself when I don’t manage to make it down. One of the best Vintage events around.
Looks like a Chuck Norris special on the chassis bend!! Very neat!! :good:
Are the side rails cut down more than usual as well??
Changed the gears, took some weight out and loosened the rear end spacing a bit. It’s better but will need taller tires and more gear work. Still feels a bit slow and draggy. One thing at a time to see what a difference each change makes. looks excellent on the track though
Thanks Ken.
Great job on the Type C Auto Union. I imagine these will be starting to show up very shortly in our Vintage group. :yahoo:
One of my fovourite cars of the era! Car and colour look spectacular in the flesh. Sadly for the rest of us it goes just as well. Great job Ken! :good:
Good looking build. Nice and tidy. :yahoo:
What are the blue spacers for on the front axles?
Probably should have stock looking white steel inserts for authenticity.
Looks good with the smaller wheels. It will be interesting to see whether performance/appearance changes with 15″ wheels??
Positioned on the chassis could the interior be made to fit by adding holes in the proper places for the body mounts and perhaps a little carving??
Perhaps if a skilled source were to make a few replica kits many issues could be solved?? I’m in should anything like that happen.
Good luck with it however you proceed, can’t wait to see the results!!
WoW!! :yahoo:
Giving it a closer look it seems that one of the flat Blue and Green interiors would fit the mounting points on the chassis and then fit the mounting points on the body. As much as I would like to see a 60K track burner :wacko: it deserves to have the chassis and body together regardless.
This little orphan has found a good home! B-)
Great score Ken!! Love it. :heart:
Ticks all the boxes, British, old, rare, and an orphan!! :good:
As is my inclination I did a bit of research… :scratch:
I could find nothing that said this was ever made as a dual kit that came as a static model or with a possible slot car intention. Perhaps there was some confusion by the seller or I just couldn’t find it listed. Are there mounting posts in the upper body that match the slot chassis?? Or perhaps you also got a spare vintage chassis and motor, an even better deal!! With beautiful inserts I might add!!Regardless, these are really, really rare so it will be wonderful to see your build!
This model looks to have been only produced the one time in 1964.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/aurora-672-100-rover-brm–1149921This kit is apparently the 1964 LeMans version of the car which did not run due to transportation damage. The 1965 version of the car had 2 air intakes at the base of the rear roof pillar that are visible in some of the videos below.
And for those so inclined, and now that one will be in the works a little history is in order!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover-BRM
Of course due to it’s uniqueness and to keep it absolutely authentic Ken is intending to build it with a 60,000 rpm motor with real turbine sound!!
There will be no confusion with the class in which it runs -as there was at LeMans-, it will be given it’s own class!! B-)
Really looking forward to seeing it!!
And don’t forget the little NSU 1000 that was in the video on the Javelin!! Revell makes a model. Sounds perfect B-)
40K!!! :yes: That should be fun!! :wacko:
I think I used some of Art’s intake manifold stacks cut from the mounting plates and glued into place to achieve that look on one of my cars. Forget which one?? :wacko:
Also, I think there is an article on one of the slot sites about using pen cartridges or even aluminum tube and rolling the tops open to achieve the look of these stacks. Possibly available at one of the hobby stores.
I saw the picture of that tube but didn’t see it in use and didn’t realize it had taken the place of the 2 axle clamps.
Did the axle version provide too much lateral movement, or what was the issue with it? I used a tube in one of my pre-war cars and am hoping to use something similar in the 550 build rather than the screw mounts. B-)
Great looking truck though!! A worthy addition to your growing group of track maintenance vehicles. :yahoo:
Great video, thanks for the link.
Lots of interesting non-major cars like an NSU 1000, a Renault 8* (I think), some Lancia’s, and a Toyota 2000 pace car!! :yahoo:
What a great looking little truck. :good:
Neat job of mounting chassis to body. You mention that you bailed on the idea of using styrene clamps at the rear. Is that what I see in the photos or did you switch to some other method??
Good looking mud flaps!! B-)
Art:
Please post some photos of the little Honda. It looked great, :yahoo: but I didn’t have too much time to view closely.
Thanks B-)
Very creative!! :good:
Did you try the chassis in an ‘articulated’ setup before epoxying the back half in?? Just wondering how it would handle. :scratch:
Will be great to see it on the track! B-)
Another great addition to our little group of Pre-war cars. :yahoo:
It looks spectacular in black with fenders!! B-)
A very interesting looking chassis. Can’t wait to see it in the flesh, so to speak!
Apparently there were very, very,very few of these motors produced. :whistle: Some time ago I was lucky enough to stand beside one of these ‘special’ all alloy motors when it fired up in a COPO Camaro. To describe it as very mean would be a big understatement. :wacko: Too bad he wasn’t able to race it!!
Mr. Arutunoff will be very happy to see the cars you are doing. :rose:
Great job on the cars!! :good:
An even better job getting the history. Good for you!! Great story! :yahoo:
Thanks for sharing it!! B-)
Tonight, as that old advertisement used to say ‘when the rubber meets the road’!! B-)
Looks great, and no one gets down on their knees to look from that low angle!!
Are you going to chrome the little details? :unsure:
Excellent!! Looks great with the cycle fenders. :good:
And yes, the original 4 cars built in ’33 had the smaller displacement 2.8L motors from the type 57 and while promising they weren’t up to the Alfas, Mercedes and Auto Unions of the era. For the 1934 season rules were changed to the 750kg. formula and the cars frames were drilled for lightness and the engines stroked to achieve 3.3L. They were still a bit heavy (749.5kg.) so often they would be pushed to scrutineering minus their magneto just to make weight. B-)
Glad you did such a great job on those tail lights as I fear that’s the only view I will get of that car tonight!!
Will be fun :scratch: to see on the track tonight!!
Great Hobbies in Mississauga have the 2 common sizes we use as well as the slightly larger, less used, 4-40 (2mm- Dubro Cat. # 370, 2-56 -Dubro Cat. # 360, 4-40 -Dubro Cat. # 361). They come as a set, drill and tap.
Go here for lots of Type 59 pictures. Not the most intuitive site to get around in but lots of interesting stuff.
Dave:
I’m doing a Type 59 now. Don’t know whether it will be ready for the 22nd or not. No reason not to make yours as well. Certainly the more the merrier!!
I’m doing mine in the softer powder Blue as opposed to the navy blue of the pictured car. They raced in many liveries and were the epitome of Bugatti GP cars. They make an unbelievably beautiful noise (if you like that sort of thing!!)
Great job. Very creative. :yahoo:
“Bread boxes were never meant to travel” And yes they were, this one at least!!
It also came standard with scuff protectors and a small oven!!
Lovely!! Will make a spectacular addition to the vintage group. :yahoo:
An 8C 2300 in period with the split screens. Slightly larger in appearance than the Broolklands screens that many marques used. Even came with a windshield wiper for the driver.
If you discover/invent a source for the bubble headlight covers seen here, the 1750 will need 3.
A bit more research indicates that the 1750 I’m doing did in fact race with the full 1 pc. windscreen.
Note the bottom of the running boards appear slightly above the axle centreline.
You can certainly see the lineage between the 1750 and the 2300.
Wonderful looking job!! :good: Very ambitious certainly!!
If building this little devil to the level you intend becomes too frustrating at times, set it aside and work on a more conventional effort while waiting for Ulster parts/inspiration to arrive. And don’t worry, a ‘conventional’ build will have more than it’s own fair share of challenges!!
There is no rush, and as far as I can see the results will be well worth it. Hopefully I’ll get the International done (to a much less ambitious level no doubt) to keep the Ulster company on the track.
Another Alfa!! :yahoo:
There were a multitude of liveries for that car ranging from both Alfa reds, French blues and a plethora of privateer liveries. It was the basis for some of the most beautiful auto’s ever produced! IMHO.
And the noise from that blown straight eight ……The 1750 was a much smaller car and perhaps the car that began the Alfa legend. The one I’m doing is the original Alfa red, which is really more of a maroon, #84 winner of the 1930 Mille Miglia, driven by Tazio Nuvolari & Giambattista Guidotti. B-)
Wonderful to see them on track together!! What a great looking field. :yahoo:
So many Blower Bentley’s!! And an Alfa :heart: !! Well done gents.
A small (1750) companion for that 8C2300 Alfa is in the works. Hopefully done for the inaugural race meeting!!??
From the 1930 Mille Miglia.
Thanks Art!
Having just seen your preparation for this build, I can’t wait to see it on track. Chassis is going to be fascinating and hopefully you can manage to complete it without losing too much of the underpinnings of the original model.
What a beautiful little car!! :yahoo: As I recall the tail of the earlier 1931 LeMans International that I have is not as pretty.
Hardly an eyesore, rather a marvelous tribute to a little reviewed area of automotive history. Beautiful. :yahoo:
Spectacular job on Mr. Correa and his Ford!!! Not sure, but it may have been a 1932 Model 18 V8 (perhaps why the #32). Regardless, great job on not only the car and chassis but an especially good job on Mr. Correa himself!
Car goes remarkably well despite the height and looks ‘Just Right’!! Can’t get any more authentic than that!!
A very innovative chassis, and as I recall it went really well. Congratulations!! :yahoo:
Livery is perfect, much better than the original!!
Felix:
Can’t wait to see these 2 built up. Two of my favourite marques as others will attest! The 8C Alfa went on to spawn a whole series of different body styles, including some of the most beautiful road going automobiles ever produced!!!
Having run the Blower Bentley on track yesterday I can attest that higher/ narrower/longer handles remarkably well. With a very slow motor of about 13K and Art’s wheels and tires it’s about 20% slower than our our sports cars, (seems to be a perfectly appropriate speed), just sits there on rails, didn’t seem to have any tendency to want to tip or slide and looks perfectly dignified in the process. That Alfa will make a marvelous companion. What colour are you going to do it in??
